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<created>2004-02-03T16:12:45Z</created>
<issued>2004-02-03T16:12:45Z</issued>
<title>The "dropout crisis" in academia</title>
<modified>2004-02-04T19:49:02Z</modified>
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<content type="text/html" mode="escaped">&lt;p&gt;Dan Drezner &lt;a href="http://www.danieldrezner.com/archives/001064.html" title="The graduate school crisis"&gt;has a post&lt;/a&gt; looking at a piece in today&amp;rsquo;s &lt;cite&gt;Chicago Tribune&lt;/cite&gt; on the &lt;a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0402030288feb03,1,5988998.story"&gt;high dropout rate of Ph.D. students&lt;/a&gt; (registration required; use your favorite combo). Dan writes:&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;So, if there&amp;rsquo;s to be reforms to ensure a higher yield of graduate school entrants earning their Ph.D.s, there would also have to be a radical change in the culture of most academic departments. Faculty would have to tell their Ph.D.s that it&amp;rsquo;s OK to get a job in the private sector. That won&amp;rsquo;t happen soon&amp;mdash;for tenured faculty, a key measure of prestige is how well they place their students. The more students that get jobs at top-tier institutions, the better it looks.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;I think a higher yield would also require a reduced intake. Certainly at lower-tier schools, programs take in quite a few grad students on &amp;ldquo;spec,&amp;rdquo; who eventually wash out because they plainly don&amp;rsquo;t belong in grad school. That doesn&amp;rsquo;t happen so much at places like Stanford and Chicago, who have their choice of qualified potential grad students, but out here in the boonies of academia it does.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, this gives rise to a second question: assuming all these grad students stick around, where are they going to get jobs? It&amp;rsquo;s a bitch placing the survivors now, even in fields like political science that have &lt;a href="http://www.apsanet.org/ps/oct03/lopez.pdf" type="text/pdf"&gt;good placement rates&lt;/a&gt; (on the order of 80% and up for applicants with Ph.D.s in hand). If you think the job market is &lt;a href="http://www.apsanet.org/PS/sept98/drezner.cfm"&gt;arbitrary and capricious&lt;/a&gt; now, just wait until departments have twice as many applicants per entry-level position&amp;mdash;and the burden of that is going to fall squarely on the shoulders of potential professors like me, who have the same (or better) skills as students coming out of &amp;ldquo;big name&amp;rdquo; programs but whose degrees come from institutions without that name.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The only realistic solution I can see is to start revoking accreditation from Ph.D. programs to get supply and demand closer to being in check, even though I suspect the results would be monumentally unfair to many potential grad students who have the ability and interest to succeed in grad school. It&amp;rsquo;s not a solution I particularly like, but if we&amp;rsquo;re going to encourage students to stick around I think we also have to ensure they have a decent shot at a job at the end of the process.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="update"&gt;Update:&lt;/span&gt; James Joyner &lt;a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/004920.html"&gt;says&lt;/a&gt;, &amp;ldquo;If one doesn&amp;rsquo;t fit into the academic culture in the comparatively collegial graduate school environment, one is almost certainly not going to be happy as a professional academic. This is a winnowing process that should be hailed, not cause for alarm.&amp;rdquo; And, Laura McK* &lt;a href="http://apartment11d.blogspot.com/2004_02_01_apartment11d_archive.html#107585874835967828"&gt;thinks Dan underestimates the degree to which grad students are often treated like crap&lt;/a&gt;. (Speaking just for myself, I&amp;rsquo;ve had it much better than the horror stories would have you believe is typical; then again, it&amp;rsquo;s possible I just have a thick skin.)&lt;/p&gt;</content>
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